Investment Banking Networking: The Definitive Guide
Depending on the source, networking is either the most essential part of the job search…
…or a giant waste of time in which students spend countless hours attending information sessions standing around crowded bankers, unable to set themselves apart.
The truth is somewhere in between those two extremes.
Networking is like lifting weights at the gym: If you use the “proper form,” you do it consistently over a long period, and you can tolerate the boredom and grind, it can be very effective.
But if you do it incorrectly, you use the wrong strategy, you’re inconsistent, or you’re not in a position to benefit from it, you’ll never get results.
Here’s what “networking” means, why it’s important, and how to get results:
Investment Banking Networking Definition:
I define investment banking networking as:
“The process of finding, contacting, and speaking with investment banking professionals to build relationships, gain knowledge, and eventually win interviews and job offers via those relationships.”
Notice how the definition mentions “relationships” twice.
Yes, you can cold email or cold call people and ask directly for internships or jobs, but that is not the ideal way to conduct a networking effort.
Investment banking networking is not just about the end goal of winning an offer, but about getting to know bankers on a personal level.
And if you’re not sure whether or not investment banking is for you, networking with dozens of bankers will reveal your preferences quickly!
Why Is Networking Important In Investment Banking?
Imagine that it’s 3 AM and an Analyst is looking through a stack of 200 resumes.
Each student’s resume starts to look the same after a few minutes – a corporate finance internship, a Big 4 internship, a 3.7 GPA, a target school… yawn.
The Analyst starts falling asleep because these resumes are boring, and he doesn’t know anyone personally.
But after dozing off and waking up again, the Analyst sees your resume and immediately recognizes your name because he spoke with you on the phone a few months ago.
He doesn’t even look at your work experience or grades, but he remembers your conversation.
Based on that, he immediately puts you into the “Interview” pile.
In a sea of identical-looking students and professionals, networking is the only way to set yourself apart.
Also, since recruiting is now hyper-accelerated and requires a sequence of previous work experience, you need to network to win other internships before you even apply to junior-year summer internships at large banks.
Common Objections To Networking Your Way Into Investment Banking
I often hear the following objections to the concept of investment banking networking:
- “But how do I know that someone I network with will review resumes for the bank and pick me?”
- “Why would bankers ever respond and speak with me? Won’t they think I’m using them? Why would they spend their time on me?”
- “Does networking work at all levels and in all regions? I’m in London. I heard networking doesn’t work here!”
- “I go to a non-target school, and no banks recruit here. How can I find bankers? There are no alumni in finance.” or “I work in a completely different industry and don’t know anyone in finance. What now?”
- “I don’t have time to network. I already have a schedule full of classes and activities, and I work part-time, or I have an incredibly busy full-time job.”
- “I’ve already tried contacting bankers, but no one responds. Help!”
And My Responses To These Objections…
Here are my responses to these objections:
- You don’t know that a specific person will select interview candidates, but networking is about tipping the odds in your favor. If you speak with dozens of bankers, your chances of winning interviews will increase significantly. There are no certainties in life; only probabilities.
- Bankers know that you want an internship or job, but that’s how the game is played. They’ll respond because if they recommend you, and you perform well, it will make them look good. And if you stay in the industry, you could become a valuable contact for them in the future.
- Networking “works” everywhere, but the rules are different in some regions, such as mainland China. Despite rumors to the contrary, networking works well in the U.K. and other financial centers outside the U.S., as our many case studies with U.K.-based readers demonstrate.
- Use LinkedIn to find professionals in your target industry, and then contact them via email. Or, locate nearby events hosted by banks or organizations like the CFA Society and find a way to attend.
- So… you have enough time for marginal tasks, but not enough time for high-ROI tasks that will boost your odds of winning job offers that immediately put you in the top ~5% of income earners upon graduation?
- If no one responds to you, then you are using the wrong channel (e.g., LinkedIn messages rather than email), your initial outreach message is bad, or your profile is not good enough to get into IB. You can fix or get around most of these.
I’ll stop here so we can move into strategy and tactics:
Investment Banking Networking Strategy And Tactics
The three main networking strategies are:
- Conducting informational interviews.
- Cold emailing.
- Cold calling.
The most appropriate strategy depends on your answers to these questions:
- Do you have a chance of getting into investment banking (or whatever field you’re aiming for)?
- If so, how much time is left before internship/full-time recruiting begins?
- What types of recruiting channels do you have access to?
To answer question #1, you should take a look at our article on how to get into investment banking – especially the part about the main pathways into the industry.
If you have no realistic chance of getting into IB, then you should stop here and consider other options, such as Master’s or MBA programs or working in a different industry first.
The second question about time is important because building relationships with bankers takes months of effort.
So, if you are about to graduate and you need to find a job ASAP, “building relationships” won’t work; you’ll have to rely more on cold calling and cold emailing.
The third question about recruiting channels is important because you have a huge advantage if you attend a “target school” with many alumni in the industry.
If you don’t have that same kind of access to alumni in investment banking, the entire process will take more time and effort, and you’ll have to rely more on cold calls and cold emails.
Investment Banking Networking Strategy #1: Conduct Informational Interviews
This strategy is appropriate if:
- You are an undergrad, and you have at least 6 months before internship recruiting begins (and ideally more like 12 months).
- Or, you are already working full-time in a related field, and you’re seeking a lateral role at a bank (whether you’re a recent grad or an older candidate).
- Or, you are an incoming MBA student, and you’re aiming for an IB summer internship that you convert into a full-time role.
If you do not have 6-12 months to conduct this effort, or you don’t fit into one of these categories, you’ll have to use other methods (see below).
We have an entire article on informational interviews, but here are the steps in the process:
- First, find names of bankers on LinkedIn and via your school’s alumni network, if applicable. You will get higher response rates from junior-to-mid-level bankers (Analyst through VP), so focus on them first, and then get referrals to reach senior bankers.
- Then, determine the appropriate email format for each person, check that the email address exists via Email Checker, and add the person’s name, email address, and key facts (school, major, firm, previous experience, interests, etc.) to your list.
- Email the person to request an informational interview, and follow up 2-3 times if you do not hear back at first. This email should be 5 sentences at most, and it should reference very specific details you have in common with the other person.
- If you do hear back, set up the call and do 15-20 minutes of additional research on the person right before the call.
- Conduct the informational interview on the phone. Spend your time listening and asking questions about the person’s career and tips that he/she has for your job search.
- At the end, make a “mini-ask,” such as passing your resume along to others in the group or for referrals to other bankers. Drop a hint about a possible future in-person meeting or weekend trip to their city.
- Then, if it is logistically possible, conduct a weekend trip several months later and meet up with the person just before recruiting begins. If you can’t do this, send 1-2 email updates or speak again on the phone and ask more specific questions this time.
- Then, make your “real ask” and ask if the person can pass along your resume or otherwise plug you into the recruiting process at their firm.
To give you an idea of the numbers:
- You can get started with your email outreach once you have gathered 20-30 names.
- If you’re at a target school and have solid alumni access, you can expect to send a few hundred outreach emails; if you’re at a non-target school or you do not have the same access, you might send more like 1,000 – 2,000 emails. Even if you send 10-20 emails per day, it will take months to complete this process.
- You’ll likely get a 10-25% response rate if you’re using a good template and contacting the right people. Out of the bankers who respond, you might speak with ~50% on the phone.
- So, you might end up speaking with between 50 and 200 bankers on the phone; a reasonable goal might be 2-3 calls per week.
- You can expect that 20-30 contacts will become useful and take real steps to promote your candidacy. Ideally, each one will be at a different bank so you’re not dependent on a few groups or firms.
We have covered informational interviews in dozens of interviews, but my top recommendation is this one (email templates included!):
This reader was at a non-target school, but the same process applies even if you’re at a top university, you’re about to start an MBA, or you’re working full-time.
If you’re working full-time, the main difference is that there’s no “recruiting start date” since banks make lateral hires as they are needed.
So, your timing will depend on when you have enough experience to speak to in interviews, which might take 6-12 months to gain.
We’ve published quite a few interviews with candidates who won lateral offers in investment banking, but if I had to recommend a single article on this topic, it would be this one:
One final note: I did not mention information sessions in the description above.
That was intentional because for many students, these sessions are not that helpful.
You can certainly attend them, but the key is to follow up immediately after the session and ask for 1-on-1 informational interviews with bankers, following the steps above.
Networking at information sessions is nearly impossible because there are too many people crowding around the bankers there, and it’s difficult to associate names with conversations.
And if you want even more on this topic, there are dozens of additional request and follow-up templates included in the IB Networking Toolkit we offer.
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Investment Banking Networking Strategy #2: Cold Email to Ask Directly for Internships or Jobs
This strategy is appropriate if:
- You are an undergrad, and you are seeking an initial finance internship in your first or second year of school, especially at smaller firms.
- You are an incoming MBA student, and you want to complete a pre-MBA internship to give yourself a leg up.
- You are about to graduate from university, you missed recruiting, and you need to find something ASAP.
- And, ideally, you will be at a target school or have other brand names on your resume/CV, as they will make cold emails far more effective.
Cold emailing to ask directly for internships or jobs will not work well if you’re already working full-time or you’re aiming for summer internships in the formalized recruiting process.
In those cases, you should be using investment banking networking strategy #1 (informational interviews).
A long time ago, I used to dismiss cold emailing as “spam” – who would respond to a random email sent by an undergrad with no real work experience?!!
But as I conducted more interviews with M&I readers, I began to change my mind.
Cold emails offer one simple advantage over cold calls: bankers live in their email inboxes.
If you email them, they will see it, even if they do not necessarily respond.
The steps in the cold-emailing process are very similar to the ones for informational interviews: you still find bankers, guess their email addresses, email them to request calls, and then do the calls.
The main differences are:
- When you send the initial email, you ask directly about internships or jobs the group might be offering.
- On the call, you stay focused on possible openings in the group or other groups at the bank. There is no need to make a mini-ask; get to the point.
- If you get a “no” answer initially, which is very likely, it’s always worth following up a few months later to see if anything has changed. But you don’t need to schedule a weekend trip or do another call – just send a quick follow-up email.
The best example of cold emailing, with email templates included, is in one of my favorite articles on this site:
- From Private Equity Internship to Bulge Bracket Investment Banking: How to Cold Email Like a Pro and Win the Offer
This reader graduated from a top university in the U.K. without real work experience and then cold emailed his way into a consulting internship, then a PE internship, and then an off-cycle IB job at a bulge-bracket bank in London.
Cold emailing works at both boutiques and bulge brackets, but if you target the big banks:
- You should contact Group Heads or other senior bankers (MDs, Senior MDs, etc.) because they have a better sense of hiring needs across the firm and more power.
- And you will need at least one relevant internship or other work experience. If you have nothing, start with smaller firms, gain experience there, and then aim for off-cycle roles at the large banks.
For more examples, see our article on investment banking email templates.
Investment Banking Networking Strategy #3: Cold Call to Ask Directly for Internships or Jobs
And now we arrive at the last main networking strategy, and also my least favorite one.
You should avoid cold calling banks and finance firms unless you have absolutely no other options.
- It tends to be effective only for undergrads and recent grads who lack work experience and have no other way to market themselves.
- If you attend even an average school and you have even mediocre internships, you’ll almost certainly get a higher response rate from cold emails.
- It rarely works at mid-sized-to-large firms, so this strategy limits you to boutiques.
- It’s a repetitive, ego-bruising process that entails more rejection than any other strategy.
- And finally, most students are terrible at speaking in real-time on the phone, especially in the age of texting/smartphones/social media.
So, if you went to a completely unknown school, graduated with no work experience, have no marketable skills, and you want to focus on boutique banks, sure, knock yourself out with cold calling.
The high-level steps here are:
- Find a list of banks in your area, and then search for bankers’ names and contact information. You can use LinkedIn, Google, Google Maps, or, ideally, services like Capital IQ to do this.
- Plan your pitch and figure out what you’re going to tell them. Keep this very, very short (1-2 sentences) and state your university, major, and experience, and ask how to position yourself for an internship at this firm.
- Place the call and be prepared to respond to their objections (we’re not hiring, we don’t take interns, we don’t have money, etc.). You will also have to be nice to assistants to reach senior bankers or otherwise ask for the person in charge of recruiting.
- Afterward, assuming a negative response, follow up once per week. Move on when they stop giving you specific objections and start saying, “No” or “Please do not call us again.”
- Meanwhile, continue to contact and follow-up with other firms on your list.
The numbers here vary widely, but you’re unlikely to get results until you’ve called a few dozen firms, perhaps 100+ firms, and tried to get through multiple times.
We have an article on investment banking cold calling, but the best reader story about the cold-calling process is in this interview:
He used some ninja strategies to get results with cold calls, including intentional phone disconnects, email format requests via assistants, and more.
The Top 6 Investment Banking Networking Mistakes and How to Avoid Them
The top mistakes vary by strategy, but my list would include:
Mistake #1: Trying Too Hard to Impress
There is nothing that you – an undergrad, MBA, or career changer – can say that will “impress” a banker, especially a senior one.
OK, maybe if you’ve won the Nobel Prize or started a $100 billion company… but then, why would you be recruiting for investment banking jobs?
So, do not brag about your GPA, your parents’ wealth, your internships, your math skills, etc.
You will get much better results if you show some vulnerability and ask for help with overcoming your weaknesses.
Mistake #2: Using the Wrong Channel(s)
LinkedIn is great for finding people and firms, but it is not ideal for contacting them; use email because everyone checks their email 24/7.
Cold calling works at boutiques, but please do not cold call a Group MD at Goldman Sachs.
Mistake #3: Writing Emails That Are Too Long OR Emails That Are Not Specific Enough
If your initial outreach email is more than 5 sentences, it is too long. See the examples and templates above.
At the same time, though, you need to include some specific details about the person so you get a response: a class or internship you had in common, a similar interest, being from the same city or region, etc.
Mistake #4: Not Following Up
Networking, and perhaps life itself, is all about following up.
Some bankers never respond to emails, but they track how many times students contact them – and they’ll give interviews to the most persistent ones.
People get busy, life comes up, and messages get lost in the shuffle.
So, if you don’t hear back the first time, try again… and again… and again.
Mistake #5: Asking Bad or Awkward Questions
Since smartphones have ruined peoples’ social skills and common sense, I must point out that you should avoid topics such as:
- How much money bankers earn.
- How many hours they work.
- Basic industry information that you can find on this site.
In informational interviews, stick to broad, open-ended questions about the other person:
- How they got started in the industry.
- How they moved from Job X to Job Y.
- What they do for fun.
- How their university or MBA led them here.
Aim to speak for 30% of the time and let the other person talk for 70% of the time.
Mistake #6: Not Asking for What You Want
Many bankers “say” they’ll pass along your resume, but few get around to doing it.
You must be proactive and make direct requests if you want to get results.
If a banker said they’d pass along your resume last week, follow up this week to see if they did… and if not, politely ask again.
If you want to work at their bank, ask directly how you can position yourself for an internship there.
Next Steps In Your Networking Journey
First, figure out if networking will be effective for you at all.
If you do not have a realistic shot of winning investment banking roles, or you need a steppingstone role or other degree first, then you should focus on those for now.
If networking will be effective for you, determine the time until recruiting begins and pick the right strategy.
For 90% of students and professionals, the right strategy will be “informational interviews.”
In some cases, however, cold emails will also be effective, and in some unfortunate cases, you may have to do some cold calling.
Investment banking networking may not be fun, but it still beats digging ditches – or being a consultant.
You might be interested in this post that shows you How to Cold Email for an Internship.
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hi Brian, I studied engineering for the past 4 years and now I’m heading to a Business school in France to study Finance. This school ranks 6th in France, not very good though, my B-school is a target school of EY, KPMG. But i didn’t see any IB firms or banks go to my B-School for recruitment. So i checked on Linkedin, and I found out that there are some students came from my B-School have entered into Rothschild, JP Morgan, and Goldman Sachs. Of course not so many. I currently have two consulting internships and a bank internship. I know this would be so hard for me to break into Investment banking. But i don’t want to give up. I get help from your courses, which made my resume looks really good, and that is why the France B-school admitted me even though i came from an engineering background. But i need more help, and my question is, what i should do now to prepare to find an internship in France, like an internship in boutique firms like Rothschild, Lazard, Evercore? You mentioned so many ways to network and get an interview. But i think you missed one very important aspect—What we should do to make our resume look good/ qualified and gain recognition from people in IB firms. Seems that you have skipped this part. So can you elaborate on this aspect?
I don’t really have much to say here because we’ve covered resumes many times in the past. You can do a search to find all the resume tips and templates:
The main issue here is that the recruiting environment in France is completely different and very elitist, so normal “networking” strategies may not apply. There are some tips here:
You can apply online to win these types of internships, but you should start by contacting all the students from your school who win IB offers and ask if they can speak with you for a few minutes to share tips/advice.
Hi Brian, thanks for the article! I am currently applying for an asset management company. And I have already talked with an entry-level analyst via Linkedin. The talking went quite smoothly, however, he said that the team is quite small and he can’t refer me to anyone (maybe there are only 4-5 analysts in the team and half of them are entry-level). The most tricky thing is that I can’t find their email address anywhere on the Internet, as the firm doesn’t want to contact with the press too much and it doesn’t even have a sales team. Now my option is to reach out to the company’s Japanese and Hong Kong offices (I am Asian) to see whether analysts there could refer me to the London office. Do you think it will work? I am a little bit uncertain about it as the offices are different.
Probably not, but it’s worth a try. You have nothing to lose, and I think you could guess peoples’ email addresses if you can find the *email format* of this firm. You should be able to get that online, or try combinations like firstname.lastname@example.org until you find one that works (see: https://email-checker.net/).
I recently cold e-mailed a small PE firm asking for an internship and here was their response: ‘I am afraid that we do not offer internships or work experience placements as we are a small company with limited needs for junior resource.’ How do I respond to this objection? Thanks!
Respond by asking them if there’s nothing that the senior staff currently spends time on, but which could be offloaded onto someone more junior to free up their time for more important tasks, such as closing deals.
I had a quick question regarding virtual networking under the covid-era where we can’t meet the professional in-person. When sending emails, should we give them the option of doing a zoom call or a phone call, or should we just ask for a zoom call only? I want to build rapport with them and a zoom call is the closest medium to a face-to-face interaction currently, and if they want to do a phone call otherwise they can say so.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks!
You should still give them the option of Zoom or a normal phone call because they’re more likely to say yes if there are 2 options rather than 1. Also, some people don’t necessarily like Zoom unless it’s with existing teammates or clients or people they already know.
For someone who is planning on recruiting for SA 2022, would you recommend to start sending networking emails out now? Or is it a bit too early considering SA 2021 recruiting isn’t completely finished yet?
It’s probably too early for now. Maybe wait until closer to the end of the year or early next year.
I come from a non-target and have just begun scheduling informational interviews regarding SA 2021 positions in the last 3 weeks. I am hoping to have my resume pushed along by a senior banker.
1) Because recruiting is coming to a close, should I be upfront in my meetings/calls about what I want, even if I have not had conversations with any of these people before? I see many differing opinions on asking about this in the first encounter.
2) Would it be a bad idea to ask a portion of these bankers about less competitive SA rolls (i.e. risk management, treasury) that I may have a higher likelihood of achieving compared to IB? Or do senior bankers in IB have no sway in other divisions?
Thank you in advance.
1) Yes. You don’t have time to be indirect at this stage. Focus on people who have something clearly in common with you and ask for what you want.
2) I wouldn’t bother because bankers will take it as a sign that you’re not confident in yourself, and they may not even be able to help much with other divisions.
Thank you. Can I attach my resume during the email outreach, and specify that I am inquiring specifically about remaining Summer 2021 openings in their division? Or is this too pushy?
Yes, you can do that. It’s late in the process, so it’s better to do that and be a bit too aggressive rather than waiting, following up over weeks, and taking forever to get an answer.
I was just wondering if you had any advice for contacting someone if their email is not specified on Linkedin.
Look up their company email format and verify that the email address exists with https://email-checker.net/
When is the best time to typically send emails to bankers? And are weekends ok to send emails?
Weekdays around the middle of the day are best. Avoid weekends, early in the morning, and after business hours (and always go by the other person’s time zone).
Thanks for the great piece as usual. I’m a 3rd year finance major student at a top Uni at Hong Kong with 3.7/4.3 GPA. I’ve only managed to secure a Risk Management internship at a big insurance company last year, and I wasn’t able to get any offer now yet. As it’s Spring already, I’m planning to cold email boutique IB/AM/PE firms to directly ask for internships, but do you think I have a realistic chance of getting an interview and landing a offer this summer or I’m better off going into other industries and going laterally? Just wanted to set my expectations.
Thanks a lot,
I think it’s possible to find an internship at the last minute, but it’s probably more difficult in HK, especially with the current economic/political situation there. The other issue is that even if you do find an internship at a small firm, they probably won’t be able to give you a return offer, which is a problem if you’re graduating next year.
So… at this point, it’s probably safer/smarter to go for something like a Big 4 role, corporate finance, an independent valuation firm, or something like that, win a return offer, and then move into IB from there.
I am studying at a target university in the UK and was wondering how networking would improve my chances of getting the internship. I have networked with alumni who are mainly analysts but they were just general questions on their experiences and what I could do to boost my chances of getting the internship. As I am applying for a summer internship wouldn’t it be better to just network with the recruitment team as analysts can’t do much to boost my chances of getting accepted? How would I approach senior bankers to network with them, as the culture here seems a tad bit different to the ones you write in your articles.
Thank you very much
The main point of networking with Analysts is to get referrals to senior bankers and decision-makers, who can then actually improve your chances of winning interviews and offers. You could try to contact the recruiters directly, but “HR” usually has limited power to pick candidates. The best approach is to start with junior bankers, chat briefly, and then ask for referrals to anyone else in their group who might be willing to speak with you.
You could also approach senior bankers directly, and sometimes that works, but usually only if you’re very polished and have great credentials on paper… and even then, it’s usually worth it only if you’re asking directly for internship/job openings.
I have a quick question. I am currently working as an intern for a bank and HR organized a series of meeting with heads of different areas of the bank. I was able to talk to the Head of IB and I got his phone number and email and he sent to me the contact information of his team so I could have “Informational Interviews” with them. I am graduating in June 2020 and this semester I only have classes 3 days per weeks so basically I have two days in the afternoon free. If I can find someone willing to talk to me and help me I was thinking about asking that person if those afternoons, I could go with him to see more about his job/day (I only would have to go to a different floor) and if possible help him in any possible way. Do you think it is a good idea?
I wouldn’t ask to shadow the person every week. Maybe ask if you can do it once or twice, but don’t go beyond that or you may annoy the person.
I’m kind of in a pickle. I’m a rising junior at Princeton getting ready to apply to IB internships. I essentially check all the boxes EXCEPT I’ve done basically no networking. At this point, is it too late? Should I just throw my resume at them online on their website? Should I also apply through Princeton’s Handshake postings? Should I still try to reach out to some alums at the banks now in case it can help? Not sure what to do. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
If you’re at a top target school, you have a good GPA, and you have some decent internship experience, you could still win interviews and offers even without networking. So… I would just submit your resume online, apply, and see what happens.
You can still reach out to alumni if you want, but networking is more effective when you do it long in advance. In this case, I would probably just apply online, see what happens, and then network with alumni at smaller banks if you don’t win interviews in this round.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. I have my first informational interview/networking session with an associate specializing in healthcare. I met him briefly in person, but we have a talk coming up over the phone. Any advice on how to leave a lasting impression and any suggestions for material to brush up on to have more talking points about his industry. Thanks!
I would learn as much as you can about him and keep your questions very focused on his background and recent deals the group has done. Also, when you ask questions about yourself, make them very specific things that will help him remember you. “I don’t have much internship experience” is too vague – “If I interned at Firm X in Field Y, and also ran Student Group Z, what’s the best way to present that experience?” is much better. Biocentury is a good source for recent healthcare news and deals.
Hi Brian, hope you are well.
I’m a Canadian student with a limited number of alumni working at BBs and EBs. I see that you recommend the informational interview strategy for most students, but making a trip to NY for me is not very possible. Would you just suggest cold-emailing bankers and then try to get on the phone with those who respond and then ask for the resume to be passed 4 months before recruiting? Also, I come from the top school in Canada and have a finance internship, but I’m not sure if I’m polished enough to start contacting senior bankers or should I just start with analysts/associates? I appreciate your valuable advice.
Yes, just do phone/email if you cannot conduct an in-person trip. You should start with Analysts and Associates until you gain some experience and know how to write emails and do phone calls with senior bankers more effectively.
Hi Eric, I’m assuming you’re an Ivey alumni, I am in my 2nd year at UWO and have applied to Ivey, would you possibly have any suggestions regarding any local firms I can reach out to to gain some relevant experience, possibly for this summer, or any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
And were you able to get in touch with any bankers?
I struggle with how to follow-up with people I have networked with, but I cannot make a weekend trip to the city. What advice do you have for successful follow ups/ what types of more specific informational chat questions? Thanks.
There are some good tips here: https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-recruiting-timeline/
“I followed up once every 4-6 months by sending an update email with classes I was taking and recent internship experience, and I also asked about deals they were working on.”
Been actively networking for a lateral role for a few months now. Talked to a ton of bankers per your great advice.
Let’s say I see a postion pops up in a bank whom I know nobody there. What’s the best move?
I’m thinking apply, and cold reach out to a banker in that group on linkedin who has anything in common with you and tell them that you applied and you want to learn more about the group to chat.
Wanted to know ur thoughts on my method. Thanks!
I would probably reach out to the banker first before you apply for the job because you ideally want someone you know at the firm to pass along your resume/application with a recommendation. But yes, reach out, say you found the opening and saw that the person had something in common with you, and you wanted to reach out and learn more about it.
I wanted to ask you about “staying in touch”. I have been able to network and find people in great companies and positions who genuinely helped me out by meeting with me, referring me, passing a long my resume, etc. This network could be valuable in the future to keep advancing in my career. What are the best or some of the ways to stay in touch with these contacts? Do you think that sending an email annually is enough? Thank you in advance and I apologize if you have talked about this subject in another article.
You don’t need to reach out that often. Just occasional reminders sent once or twice a year will work well.
I would recommend setting aside 1 day every 6 months or every 12 months where you send a quick update email with 3-4 sentences to your contacts and maybe customize it a bit depending on who the person is and what you discussed with them before.
You may not even need a full day to do it. Most readers who have a lot of success with networking wind up with around 20-30 good, helpful contacts at different firms, and you could probably send 20-30 emails in a few hours, assuming you already have each person’s information.
There are some good examples here: https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-recruiting-timeline/
“I followed up once every 4-6 months by sending an update email with classes I was taking and recent internship experience, and I also asked about deals they were working on.”
I was wondering if you had a list of interesting questions that I could ask to a Senior Investment Banker?
There is no set list of questions because they should be specific to the person you’re speaking with. Contrary to what many students think, you can’t just script out a conversation before the conversation actually begins.
Sample questions based on research done before the call:
-I saw you worked in Industry X before investment banking. How did you transition in?
-I saw you went to business school at Program X. I’m thinking about that in the future – what was your experience there like?
-I have Background X and Y and have been encountering Problem Z when recruiting for IB roles. How do you think I should handle it?
Hey Brian. I’m a final year economics student at a semi-target school in U.K. I have 2 internships at BB(Back office) and Commercial banking. I’m doing a summer internship 2019 in Big 4 corporate finance division, before starting MSc Finance at top target school in London in September, with the hope of getting into IB. My question is when should I start networking and reaching out to people with regards to getting an IB internship in summer 2020?
Usually about 6 months before recruiting starts, which means right about now, assuming that applications in the U.K. for 2020 summer internships open up in August/September 2019 as they usually do. The key point is that in the U.K., you must apply for roles immediately once the application opens up because it’s first come, first serve. Additional networking at that point makes almost no difference compared with applying ASAP.
I have two summer offers in NYC: Barclays S&T vs PWP IBD. The Barclays’ offer involves two rotations in two different desks. The matching process for the desks is quite mysterious, you get to express preferences and so do the desks based on your CV and then HR does the matching. My long term goal is to become a PM at a hedge fund and so I would like to join a HF as an analyst after 2-6 years at a major bank. Assuming I succeed in getting a full time offer, which one of these two offers me the best shot at exiting into a hedge fund. I am ineterested in all sorts of HF strategies (excluding quants) so do not base your answer on that, just base your answer on the probability of leaving for a hedge fund within 2-6 years. Oh yeah one more thing, assuming that I do not succeed in exiting for a hedge fund, how do you think the comp at Barclays S&T compares with that of PWP IBD? Thank you very much in advance!!!
P.S.= Also scared about automation and headcount cutting in S&T
It really depends on what you want to do at the hedge fund: executing trading or investment analysis? If you want to execute trades, take the S&T offer; if you want to do fundamental, event-driven, or other analysis, take the IB offer.
The only issue I can see is that I’m not sure offhand how well PWP places into hedge funds. I think elite boutiques and other banks in that range tend to be better for PE exits, but it depends on the industry/strategy match as well. I think you will probably earn more in PWP IBD long-term, especially since they won’t make a huge portion of your bonus stock or deferred, as Barclays and the other large banks will.